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	<title>Comments on: The Tantrum: Should Dads Go to Birthing Class? Part 2</title>
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		<title>By: Matt is raising a LUSH! &#124; DADWAGON</title>
		<link>http://www.dadwagon.com/2010/01/27/the-tantrum-should-dads-go-to-birthing-class/comment-page-1/#comment-1069</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt is raising a LUSH! &#124; DADWAGON</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 17:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] here: the four of us have disagreed on raising geeks, whether sleep training is evil, and whether birthing classes are a Wicca conspiracy. Also controversial: sending young kids to private school, letting little boys have glamrock [...]</description>
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		<title>By: karen</title>
		<link>http://www.dadwagon.com/2010/01/27/the-tantrum-should-dads-go-to-birthing-class/comment-page-1/#comment-536</link>
		<dc:creator>karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 01:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heya Matt,

as much as I love you guys discussing this topic ... I did not love your friend&#039;s article.

I have posted my comments on the magazine site, I think I am on page 17 somewhere (YEEPOA), in two parts.  I don&#039;t understand why we have to trash talk each other about things as important as the birthing process.  I say we keep our eye on the ball:  get those babies out!!!  Everything else is an equal split of luck, choice and, well, luck.

What my husband and I got from the pre-birth class (just a run-of-the-mill one) was that we had the right to say no to student doctors poking their germ-infested gloves up my vagina, no to extra nurses or doctors coming in to check on things, no to whatever we wanted to say no to.  This allowed me to say no to the two nurses who were arguing over whether or not one had to go on a coffee break while my child&#039;s head was (really!) popping out to take a look.  Unfortunately the nice nurse lost, but not until I told them to take the scrum to another playground.  Hospitals just don&#039;t seem like a very human place to me these days.

Oh, and I think my guy liked seeing all the beautiful pregnant women too.  We skipped the film.  I didn&#039;t want to have preconceived notions about what the birth process is like by seeing somebody else&#039;s birth before my child&#039;s own.  I also always read the book before I see a film.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heya Matt,</p>
<p>as much as I love you guys discussing this topic &#8230; I did not love your friend&#8217;s article.</p>
<p>I have posted my comments on the magazine site, I think I am on page 17 somewhere (YEEPOA), in two parts.  I don&#8217;t understand why we have to trash talk each other about things as important as the birthing process.  I say we keep our eye on the ball:  get those babies out!!!  Everything else is an equal split of luck, choice and, well, luck.</p>
<p>What my husband and I got from the pre-birth class (just a run-of-the-mill one) was that we had the right to say no to student doctors poking their germ-infested gloves up my vagina, no to extra nurses or doctors coming in to check on things, no to whatever we wanted to say no to.  This allowed me to say no to the two nurses who were arguing over whether or not one had to go on a coffee break while my child&#8217;s head was (really!) popping out to take a look.  Unfortunately the nice nurse lost, but not until I told them to take the scrum to another playground.  Hospitals just don&#8217;t seem like a very human place to me these days.</p>
<p>Oh, and I think my guy liked seeing all the beautiful pregnant women too.  We skipped the film.  I didn&#8217;t want to have preconceived notions about what the birth process is like by seeing somebody else&#8217;s birth before my child&#8217;s own.  I also always read the book before I see a film.</p>
<p>karen</p>
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		<title>By: stonerdad</title>
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		<dc:creator>stonerdad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 00:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>scheduled C-section baby! no birth classes, no sitting around waiting for the thing to pop, just fifteen minutes at a reasonable hour, and you&#039;re on your way!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>scheduled C-section baby! no birth classes, no sitting around waiting for the thing to pop, just fifteen minutes at a reasonable hour, and you&#8217;re on your way!</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 22:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally, there is an element of false choice there for dads. If the wife wants to go, you go. But hey, I learned about determinism in college: it doesn&#039;t matter what we say or do, so we might as well just talk about whatever we find amusing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally, there is an element of false choice there for dads. If the wife wants to go, you go. But hey, I learned about determinism in college: it doesn&#8217;t matter what we say or do, so we might as well just talk about whatever we find amusing.</p>
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		<title>By: DaddyClay</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaddyClay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 21:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We pretended that dads are a part of the &quot;going to birth class&quot; decision in this episode of DadLabs:

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